# Chain reorg affects reward?

**URL:** https://forum.autonomys.xyz/t/chain-reorg-affects-reward/3420
**Category:** Incentivized Testnet
**Tags:** gemini, nodes
**Created:** [May 8, 2024, 1:18pm UTC](https://forum.autonomys.xyz/t/chain-reorg-affects-reward/3420 "2024-05-08T13:18:35Z")
**Posts on this page:** 13
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### Author: ![doris](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.autonomys.xyz/doris/32/1004_2.png) [@doris](https://forum.autonomys.xyz/u/doris)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2024, 1:18pm UTC](https://forum.autonomys.xyz/t/chain-reorg-affects-reward/3420/1 "2024-05-08T13:18:35Z")

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When the farmer found a solution and then submitted it to the node claimed, but the claimed vote or block only 90% are finally confirmed by the chain, lost 10% reward. I guess the reason is chain reorged, is that right? How can I improve performance?

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### Author: ![PuNkYsHuNgRy](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.autonomys.xyz/punkyshungry/32/541_2.png) [@PuNkYsHuNgRy](https://forum.autonomys.xyz/u/PuNkYsHuNgRy)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2024, 2:59pm UTC](https://forum.autonomys.xyz/t/chain-reorg-affects-reward/3420/2 "2024-05-08T14:59:22Z")

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Hello, are you missing some rewards or not getting the amount of tssc you expect?

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### Author: ![doris](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.autonomys.xyz/doris/32/1004_2.png) [@doris](https://forum.autonomys.xyz/u/doris)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2024, 3:02pm UTC](https://forum.autonomys.xyz/t/chain-reorg-affects-reward/3420/3 "2024-05-08T15:02:53Z")

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Yes, the reward is about 10% less than what I expected.

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### Author: ![nazar-pc](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.autonomys.xyz/nazar-pc/32/6_2.png) [@nazar-pc](https://forum.autonomys.xyz/u/nazar-pc)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2024, 3:20pm UTC](https://forum.autonomys.xyz/t/chain-reorg-affects-reward/3420/4 "2024-05-08T15:20:36Z")

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Then your expectation wasn’t correct, see [Dynamic Reward Issuance on Gemini-3h](https://forum.autonomys.xyz/t/dynamic-reward-issuance-on-gemini-3h/2836) for details.  
And [Rewards & Fees | Autonomys Academy](https://academy.autonomys.net/subspace-protocol/rewards-and-fees) of course.

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### Author: ![PuNkYsHuNgRy](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.autonomys.xyz/punkyshungry/32/541_2.png) [@PuNkYsHuNgRy](https://forum.autonomys.xyz/u/PuNkYsHuNgRy)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2024, 3:27pm UTC](https://forum.autonomys.xyz/t/chain-reorg-affects-reward/3420/5 "2024-05-08T15:27:04Z")

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Please have a look at this. [Dynamic Reward Issuance on Gemini-3h](https://forum.autonomys.xyz/t/dynamic-reward-issuance-on-gemini-3h/2836)

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### Author: ![doris](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.autonomys.xyz/doris/32/1004_2.png) [@doris](https://forum.autonomys.xyz/u/doris)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2024, 1:06am UTC](https://forum.autonomys.xyz/t/chain-reorg-affects-reward/3420/6 "2024-05-09T01:06:02Z")

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I have read and understand it, but what I want to express is the number of times I got the reward instead of the total number of tssc I got. why is the node claim vote or block not confirmed on the chain?

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### Author: ![PuNkYsHuNgRy](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.autonomys.xyz/punkyshungry/32/541_2.png) [@PuNkYsHuNgRy](https://forum.autonomys.xyz/u/PuNkYsHuNgRy)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2024, 1:20am UTC](https://forum.autonomys.xyz/t/chain-reorg-affects-reward/3420/7 "2024-05-09T01:20:19Z")

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I’m sorry I’m not following, are you saying your getting misses? It can happen from time to time for different reasons. Possibly your cpu might be overloaded with other tasks?

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### Author: ![doris](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.autonomys.xyz/doris/32/1004_2.png) [@doris](https://forum.autonomys.xyz/u/doris)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2024, 1:47am UTC](https://forum.autonomys.xyz/t/chain-reorg-affects-reward/3420/8 "2024-05-09T01:47:00Z")

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cpu not overload, the vote or block not accept by the chain

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### Author: ![PuNkYsHuNgRy](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.autonomys.xyz/punkyshungry/32/541_2.png) [@PuNkYsHuNgRy](https://forum.autonomys.xyz/u/PuNkYsHuNgRy)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2024, 1:57am UTC](https://forum.autonomys.xyz/t/chain-reorg-affects-reward/3420/9 "2024-05-09T01:57:37Z")

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Are you tracking your Auditing/Proving times to make sure you aren’t sending it too late?

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### Author: ![dragonP](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.autonomys.xyz/dragonp/32/716_2.png) [@dragonP](https://forum.autonomys.xyz/u/dragonP)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2024, 4:58am UTC](https://forum.autonomys.xyz/t/chain-reorg-affects-reward/3420/10 "2024-05-09T04:58:21Z")

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I think his number 90%/10% caused the confusion to you. It’s not about the 10% less of block/vote reward that he received. But he meant that in 10% of the vote/block claim, he didn’t receive any reward at all after that.

And he thinks it’s due to the chain re-org. @doris from my opinion, yes you’re right on this. Usually you submit the proof a bit late so you’re on the ‘side chain’ so after the re-org, the block that your node created is not in the correct chain. It happens to block reward only.

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### Author: ![doris](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.autonomys.xyz/doris/32/1004_2.png) [@doris](https://forum.autonomys.xyz/u/doris)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2024, 5:15am UTC](https://forum.autonomys.xyz/t/chain-reorg-affects-reward/3420/11 "2024-05-09T05:15:20Z")

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From the node log, more than 200 Reorg events can occur every day. Is this normal? What can I do to prevent chain Reorg?

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### Author: ![dragonP](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.autonomys.xyz/dragonp/32/716_2.png) [@dragonP](https://forum.autonomys.xyz/u/dragonP)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2024, 5:35am UTC](https://forum.autonomys.xyz/t/chain-reorg-affects-reward/3420/12 "2024-05-09T05:35:45Z")

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Absolutely normal to my understanding. But in **very rare** case, the new block that you node create is on the side chain.

Every 24 hours, subspace has about 14,400 blocks. So from what you observe, the rate is 1.3% for re-org, which is ‘orphan block’ in the ETH PoW.

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### Author: ![z\_W](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex011/user_avatar/forum.autonomys.xyz/z_w/32/1135_2.png) [@z\_W](https://forum.autonomys.xyz/u/z_W)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2024, 5:46pm UTC](https://forum.autonomys.xyz/t/chain-reorg-affects-reward/3420/13 "2024-05-09T17:46:06Z")

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> [@Can the --farming-thread-pool-size only use up to 32 threads at most? For some large EPYC processors, isn't that too few?](https://forum.autonomys.xyz/t/can-the-farming-thread-pool-size-only-use-up-to-32-threads-at-most-for-some-large-epyc-processors-isnt-that-too-few/2815/37):
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> Here are warning logs from the machine you have shared access with: 
> 
> > **Proof of time chain was extended from block import**
> >
> > 2024-03-12T19:18:42.970333Z WARN Consensus: sc\_proof\_of\_time::source: Proof of time chain was extended from block import from\_next\_slot=3417177 to\_next\_slot=3417178 2024-03-12T23:03:53.841201Z WARN Consensus: sc\_proof\_of\_time::source: Proof of time chain was extended from block import from\_next\_slot=3430883 to\_next\_slot=3430884 2024-03-12T23:14:28.649307Z WARN Consensus: sc\_p…

I think this can help you
